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Ray McCarthy@raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie (2026-02-03 04:21:29)
@firefoxwebdevs @plwt 
I've not used Vivaldi since last year:

https://www.qwant.com/?q=Vivaldi+AI&client=plgn-firefox-sb&t=web

They claim to not have AI.

I use copy / paste to https://libretranslate.com/ if I need translation.

There is no Cloud. Only other people's servers!
---Reply--- Firefox for Web Developers@firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social (2026-02-03 04:24:35) @raymaccarthy @plwt it's easy to say you don't have AI if you define it so it doesn't include features you have.

Folks consider translation to be generative AI https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115849251057488746
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Ray McCarthy@raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie (2026-02-03 04:31:03)
@firefoxwebdevs @plwt 
What Vivaldi says or does is irrelevant.

Mozilla did a stupid survey that didn't actually ask if people wanted AI or ML at all.

Most people just want a browser. No need for an AI off switch as there is no reason to have ANY ML or AI of ANY kind in the first place.
Mozilla by any sane metric has been making Thunderbird and Firefox worse for years. I used them practically from release on XP till 2016.
I used Waterfox with Classic Theme restorer for a while after GUI bork.