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silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-18 07:34:36)
@p This is a good analysis, and I can confirm that there is indeed some coordination between the organizations and people you mentioned. I wouldn't call it a conspiracy, though. I know some of them well enough to conclude that it is a not a single organization, but a loose group. Some of them seem to be fake, but others seem to be sincere in their convictions.

I'd like to share a couple of additional links you may find interesting:

- https://about.iftas.org/yoel/

Remember this guy? Given the timing, I suspect that some of these projects were supposed to be sinecures for former Twitter employees.

- https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/140

This is a draft of a FEP about mandatory CSAM scanning. As one of the FEP repo maintainers, I immediately raised concerns about privacy, centralization, etc. That made me persona non grata at W3C.
---Reply--- pistolero@p@fsebugoutzone.org (2026-04-18 10:45:37) @silverpill

> This is a good analysis, and I can confirm that there is indeed some coordination between the organizations and people you mentioned.

:bigbosssalute: Thank ye.

> I wouldn't call it a conspiracy, though.

I'm a fuckin' lunatic, I'll call it one.

> I know some of them well enough to conclude that it is a not a single organization, but a loose group.

The thing is they put out tendrils without acknowledging the coordination or any other kind of transparency about who decided what and when and why. Like, Seirdy puts out his receipts, IFTAS just declares things and then calls people enemies of progress and says "Well, you can't just have a website where people say whatever they want": this behavior is as good as an acknowledgement of an agenda that they don't want to publicize.

> others seem to be sincere in their convictions.

Oh, yeah, I mean, I can acknowledge that. I think a lot of them are sincere in their convictions the way Bob McNamara was, though. "Taquiyya is praxis." I don't doubt that there are some that hear these things they're saying and agree with them and push them.

> - https://about.iftas.org/yoel/

Am I missing something? It's just a photo of the guy's head.

> Remember this guy? Given the timing, I suspect that some of these projects were supposed to be sinecures for former Twitter employees.

That is interesting.

> - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/140
> This is a draft of a FEP about mandatory CSAM scanning. As one of the FEP repo maintainers, I immediately raised concerns about privacy, centralization, etc. That made me persona non grata at W3C.

*Very* interesting.

Evan Prodromou, "Board member at CoSocial.ca. Research Director, Social Web Foundation." says:

> This conversation is not very fruitful, so I'm withdrawing the PR. I'm going to rework this proposal and submit it to the SocialCG directly instead.

And Jaz shows up as well. Very interesting conversation; worth reading.

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silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-18 15:46:24)
@p

>Am I missing something? It's just a photo of the guy's head.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoel_Roth