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Reply to @patrickleavy@mastodon.social silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-07-16 04:42:24) @patrickleavy It's getting closer:Reply
https://codeberg.org/ap-next/ap-next/src/branch/main/nomadpub.md
---Reply--- Patrick Leavy@patrickleavy@mastodon.social (2026-07-16 07:31:46) @silverpill oh wow, that seems to have it all! What would it take to get that adopted?
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Jupiter Rowland@jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu (2026-07-16 23:52:52) @Patrick Leavy A whole lot. Sorry, but this will be very very very long again.
I don't know if you've read my previous (very long) commentary. But just implementing one or two FEPs won't get you the same full-blown nomadic identity (https://joinfediverse.wiki/Nomadic_identity) that Hubzilla (what I'm writing from right now; https://hubzilla.org; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubzilla; https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla) has had since 2012. And having this level of nomadic identity has to be the goal.
What has to be done is:
Take something like Mastodon.
Non-nomadic.
Where your account, your login, equals your identity.
Make your identity cloneable
Now, before you can make identities nomadic, you have to uncouple them from the login, from the account.
Mastodon has to introduce a sort of container for your identity, like the channels that Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte have always had (https://joinfediverse.wiki/Channels_(Hubzilla_&_(streams))). This is necessary so that a future nomadic Mastodon will know what to clone and what not to clone. For example, cloning your password is dangerous nonsense.
So, everything that makes up your account except for your login credentials will have to be moved into this container.
your short nameyour long nameyour profile images, including alt-textsyour profileyour followersyour followedyour toots, including stats like faves, boosts etc.copies of the conversation trees of all your toots, including stats like faves, boosts etc. as well as attached files for each messageall files you've ever attached to tootsyour settingsyour filtersyour mutesyour blocksyour server blocksetc.Essentially, everything except for your login credentials will have to be moved from directly residing on your account into that box.
Change your login
Also, your login will have to change from short name + passphrase to e-mail + passphrase. Your short name is part of your identity, it's in the container, it will be cloned, so it can't be used to log you