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Jackie Plage@jac@social.lol (2026-08-26 06:45:43)
@bstn I don't think that's true, personally. I mean, from the discussions over the last few days I totally get how you could have that impression, but it's not how I interpret the source material. Also I think of the Indieweb principles as a guiding philosophy, and not a club that you join as such.
The core principles are own your own data (that can be as simple as keeping a local copy), have some way of connecting with others through your site (just an email address is good enough for that but you can add more) and being in control of what you can or can't post (in other words, the freedom to express yourself as you desire).
You can do that on a platform you build yourself or one built by others. I think Bear is a good example of a hosted platform. It's been around a long time and the owner thus far has behaved with good intentions.
That's my interpretation at least (not saying I'm right, I'm no expert!).
I've been arguing with myself about whether to just go back to Eleventy for a week or so, before the events of the last few days. What really pushed me over the edge was the way Olly mishandled customer data, when he fed it to an LLM without seeking permission first. I'm probably missing a lot of info out here but I didn't want it to turn into an essay either, so I'll stop there. :)
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Sebastian@bstn@social.lol (2026-08-26 06:53:24)
@jac I suppose that was the original idea. But I get the impression that everyone adds their own elements to it, thereby creating something like clans: if you follow exactly the same principles as me – join us. If yours are slightly different – find yourself another space where you’ll feel at home, but you’re unlikely to feel at home with us.
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Jackie Plage@jac@social.lol (2026-08-26 06:58:39)
@bstn Yeah, I get that impression too. You don't have to listen to everything / everyone, though. Everyone's different, but I don't really like getting into online debates anymore. I'm too old and way too tired for that most of the time. So like I said, I'm just doing the best that I can. If that's not good enough for some, I'm not too bothered by it. Life is stressful enough. 🤷♀️