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Jackie Plage@jac@social.lol (2026-08-26 06:20:01)
@bstn It's a starting point at least!  There's a lot of nuance in some areas, and much will depend on personal points of view on where exactly that line should be drawn.

I started this year with a new Eleventy site.  Then the sheer convenience of Pagecord drew me in (just being able to write and hit publish is a big draw for an ADHD brain).  But now I've told myself to stop being lazy and I'm putting together a new Eleventy site to merge the original two (actually, three) sites.  However, it will be hosted on Netlify, and I've no idea about how they handle things on their end.  Probably not in a way that lives up to the standards of many in the Indieweb community, though.

It's an ever changing landscape, so I constantly re-assess.
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Sebastian@bstn@social.lol (2026-08-26 06:23:36)
@jac I’m increasingly getting the impression that the idea behind the IndieWeb is incredibly simple, but can only be put into practice by people who know how to build their own websites and set up servers. Everyone else is stuck somewhere in between. They’re standing, as it were, on the edge of a precipice – they want to be part of the IndieWeb world, they’re invited to join it, yet at the same time they don’t meet the criteria and aren’t able to fulfil them.

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Jackie Plage@jac@social.lol (2026-08-26 06:45:43)
@bstn I don't think that's true, personally.  I mean, from the discussions over the last few days I totally get how you could have that impression, but it's not how I interpret the source material.  Also I think of the Indieweb principles as a guiding philosophy, and not a club that you join as such.  

The core principles are own your own data (that can be as simple as keeping a local copy), have some way of connecting with others through your site (just an email address is good enough for that but you can add more) and being in control of what you can or can't post (in other words, the freedom to express yourself as you desire).

You can do that on a platform you build yourself or one built by others.  I think Bear is a good example of a hosted platform.  It's been around a long time and the owner thus far has behaved with good intentions.

That's my interpretation at least (not saying I'm right, I'm no expert!).

I've been arguing with myself about whether to just go back to Eleventy for a week or so, before the events of the last few days.  What really pushed me over the edge was the way Olly mishandled customer data, when he fed it to an LLM without seeking permission first.  I'm probably missing a lot of info out here but I didn't want it to turn into an essay either, so I'll stop there.  :)