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Reply to @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
Strypey@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz (2026-04-15 09:51:36)
Some of the considerations for social publishing services, that aren't so much of an issue for social communication services;
* persistence and responsible sunsetting
* storage and bandwidth costs
* accountable governance
* Bring Your Own Domain
To be clear, I'm not saying these things aren't helpful in communication services, they certainly are. They're just not as mission critical as they are in publishing services.
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にせねこ@nixeneko@nixeneko.info (2026-04-15 09:46:13)
ね、ねむい
fedicat@fedicat@pc.cafe (2026-04-15 08:56:44)
fun #fedicat feature, adding syntax highlighting (provided by the Textual renderer) for #gotosocial code blocks that specify a language
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ささきち@ssk_chi@misskey.io boosted:
@y_kohata_@misskey.io (2026-04-14 23:52:09)
これはよくやる手法なんですけど、
明朝体に細い縦線を1本入れるだけで、手軽にゴシック調のような雰囲気を持たせることができて好きなんですよね
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ささきち@ssk_chi@misskey.io boosted:
@Gigantic_Thor@misskey.io (2026-04-14 23:58:41)
はじめてのモノクロマンガ(やっつけ)
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ささきち@ssk_chi@misskey.io (2026-04-15 08:37:31)
:ohayoo::blobcat_nemunemu:
Reply to @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
Strypey@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz (2026-04-15 07:16:24)
Sure, now that Loops exists, it's probably the better choice for posting ephemeral microvideos, as part of a social conversation, like we do with text micro-posts. But Loops isn't constrained to this kind of social communication usage. It supports videos up to 3mins long, and people could just as easily use it to publish videos they might otherwise put on a YouTub channel. In the hopes they'll still be watched and valued many years hence.
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Reply to @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
Strypey@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz (2026-04-15 07:03:48)
Now having given these software projects as examples, I want to make it clear I'm describing use patterns, either of which can be applied to any software.
After decades of blogging, I can't help thinking of what I do on Mastodon as publishing. I link to my old posts and dig through them to find stuff, just like I do on my blogs. Conversely someone could use PeerTube to do video blogging, auto-deleting their old posts after a while like people do with their micro-posting accounts.
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Reply to @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
Strypey@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz (2026-04-15 06:55:31)
I've noticed that mainstream use of "social media" is mostly following Jonathan Haidt's usage to describe only the mostly parasocial DataFarming platforms;
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/16/podcasts/jonathan-haidt-strikes-again-what-you-vibecoded-an-update-on-the-forkiverse.html
So in response, I'll reframe the above as 2 kinds of social networks;
* social communication networks: many-to-many, relationship-based, ephemeral, eg Mastodon, Friendica, Misskey, GoToSocial
* social publishing networks: one-to-many, content-based, persistent, eg PeerTube, FunkWhale, WriteFreely, BandWagon
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Reply to @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
Strypey@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz (2026-04-15 06:44:22)
I've posted here at least a couple of times about the difference between "social networks" (many-to-many, relationship-based), and "social media" (one-to-many, content-based). I said that the fediverse can accommodate both, but they come with very different design and deployment considerations.
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Reply to @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
Strypey@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz (2026-04-15 06:36:03)
Ben identified this risk in the talk, so I don't want to give the impression it's something they're not aware of. What I'm trying to describe here is the weird feeling of double consciousness, where Ben pitched things that I've advocated for myself, and I was able to respond to them as if I was hearing them for the first time. Understanding some of the objections I've encountered from the inside, for a change.
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Strypey@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz (2026-04-15 06:30:59)
Last night I watched a video of @benpate's talk from #FediCon last year;
https://peertube.iridescent.nz/w/sW6qcdP4ogG5DXW1RUzyo3
What a ride! I found myself vigorously agreeing with most of it. But there were other parts where I was divided against myself. One part still agreeing. another part nervous, that if we go down the road of scaling, monetisation and professionalisation, we risk repeating the mistakes of the original web, and end up right back where we started in another 20 years.
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#FediCon #talks #video
silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-15 05:21:03)
@smallcircles @gary This page is a less-technical introduction to FEP-ef61 Portable Objects.
Reply to @koteisaev@mastodon.online
silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-15 04:36:29)
@koteisaev
https://codeberg.org/silverpill/minimitra
It's an experimental software but works roughly as you described.
Reply to @gary@pottering.uk
silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-15 04:30:37)
@gary ActivityPub data can be portable too, even distributed across multiple instances:
https://codeberg.org/ap-next/ap-next/src/branch/main/nomadpub.md
But popular Fediverse platforms don't support this feature.
Magical Cat@koteisaev@mastodon.online (2026-04-15 04:23:16)
I am looking for some #localFirst solution for blog authoring what would publish (all or some) posts to an activityPub server like to a relay, with publishing of new versions of posts as updates.
And fetch new posts, comments, mentions, messages, and reactions arrive to my local-first thing as a Feed or an Inbox.
Sounds like I want "Fido with formatting and attachments" over #ActivityPub .
The #Fido part is avoid need to be "always online", but sync that few times per day when have time for it
Reply to @benpate@mastodon.social
silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-15 04:15:26)
@benpate You mean they are sent in an encrypted envelope? In that case I would use EmojiReact, the canonical variant. Like with content is a hack for compatibility with Mastodon, but if activities are encrypted it shouldn't be necessary.
@phnt @feld
おだら@s3_odara@mastodon.hakurei.win (2026-04-15 03:12:25)
誕生日を迎えてしまい、歳をとってしまった
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Ben Pate 🤘🏻@benpate@mastodon.social (2026-04-15 02:45:47)
@silverpill @phnt@fluffytail.org @feld@friedcheese.us
Fun fact: both E2EE clients in development right now support the “content” field in likes.
I was just demoing emoji reactions this morning.
We’re going to try to include it as a MAY or SHOULD in the spec, with fallbacks for regular Likes.
Reply to @ropoko@mastodon.gamedev.place
silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-15 02:44:16)
@ropoko HTTP signatures and WebFinger are must have.
This guide might be useful:
https://codeberg.org/ap-next/ap-next/src/branch/main/guide.md
Reply to @phnt@fluffytail.org
silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-15 02:27:38)
@phnt @feld @benpate Would you accept a FEP? https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/c0e0/fep-c0e0.md
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silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-15 02:23:14)
@feld @phnt @benpate Fair point. I usually imagine a network of small instances where spying admins are not a problem, but Mastodon is a different world.
諏訪子@suwako@sns.076.moe (2026-04-15 02:13:33)
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Reply to @silverpill@mitra.social
Phantasm@phnt@fluffytail.org (2026-04-15 01:38:56)
@silverpill @feld @benpate Because the way Matrix does it is kinda flawed and makes inserting malicious devices easy-ish. OMEMO is the second extreme they can go to.
This ActivityPub becoming a kitchen sink protocol is getting really weird. First it was trying to make C2S usable and now E2EE barely anybody asked for. When are we going to get emoji reactions standardized?
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feld@feld@friedcheese.us (2026-04-15 01:37:36)
@silverpill @phnt @benpate harder to target users on your own homeserver when you don't have a public timeline where you can spy on your users to pick a victim based on their public posts/profiles.
most of the activity on Matrix is private or at least in group chats. The fediverse is public by default.
Reply to @feld@friedcheese.us
silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-15 01:34:54)
@feld @phnt @benpate It doesn't seem to be an issue in the Matrix ecosystem where people often self host web clients.
Reply to @phnt@fluffytail.org
feld@feld@friedcheese.us (2026-04-15 01:29:09)
@phnt @benpate good question. I think the reality will be more like
- flawed implementation, terrible rollout
- Mastodon and maybe Pixelfed support it (seems like something dansup would jump on)
- all the logic has to be in the client (or frontend)
alright. Now we've got an app store with a ton of shady looking fedi clients (we're that popular guys).
How long before any of those are modified to exfiltrate your keys? How long before the first incel server admin that wants to spy on some female account so they backdoor the FE to steal their keys next time they login?
As soon as one of those events happens, now trust is gone. So Mastodon has to restrict access to this feature to the official Mastodon app and the official Mastodon servers.
UHOH SPAGHETTI-O
Reply to @benpate@mastodon.social
silverpill@silverpill@mitra.social (2026-04-15 01:28:01)
@benpate As somebody who also thought about E2EE (MLS was my suggestion), I can confidently say that SWF spec didn't add much to the discussion. That's not surprising, because to do that one needs to actually start writing code.
Gary@gary@pottering.uk (2026-04-15 01:24:14)
My technical know-how falls short by a long way and I'm having a little trouble figuring out whether I get what I want from the Fediverse. By my limited understanding AT Protocol allows for a 'nomadic' id/datastore (PDS) but with ActivityPub, the nearest we get to that is by having your own instance of an app of your choice and plugging it in/out of other peoples, but your data can only really live in *your instance of *that app??
#Fediverse #atproto #ActivityPub #Data #Identity #PotteringAbout
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@rio@kawane.misskey.online (2026-04-15 00:15:04)
JAPANESE PLOVER (Stenography; a way to type stupidly fast using a specialized keyboard) IS HERE!? OH MY NISABA FINALLY!!!
https://note.com/jeebis_keyboard/n/nf5ec466bd37a?after_purchase=true&scrollpos=tip
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